Former Biden White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain told MSNBC host and ex-Biden press secretary Jen Psaki that President Joe Biden will debate former President Donald Trump but that “rules are going to have to be enforced” to prevent a chaotic “shouting match.”

Trump has been trolling Biden with a demand for immediate debates, to which Biden responded in an interview with Howard Stern by saying “I am, somewhere. I don’t know when. I’m happy to debate him.”

On Sunday’s edition of MSNBC’s Inside With Jen Psaki, Psaki asked Klain about debates, specifically what rules there should be:

PSAKI: I want to ask you about debates because I don’t — perhaps you have prepped more presidential candidates for debates than anyone. Someone can fact check me on that. But there’s this whole question of will they debate, won’t they debate, we’ll see what happens. They both said they would.

But you’ve also said that there need to be kind of fair rules. What do those look like? And what should people understand about that?

KLAIN: I think they will debate. President Biden said this week on Howard Stern’s show that he’s willing to debate him, and Trump was running around claiming he’d debate him anytime anywhere.

PSAKI: Including today. I like it when he said it.

KLAIN: Yes. I don’t think that’s true. But I think there will be debates. I think what we have to see is something different than we saw in 2016 and 2020, where the debate commission lost control of the debates, Trump didn’t follow the rules at all, he talked over his opponents, there wasn’t a fair division of time, it was more a spectacle than a debate. That’s always going to be true with Donald Trump on the stage.

But we need to have debates where the candidates get equal time, where there is an orderly way of proceeding, where they can be heard, where it’s not a shouting match, where the American people can compare the two people who are the leading candidates for president.

PSAKI: Yes. The rules are so important, which I think people don’t realize that that’s part of the negotiation of it all.

KLAIN: Definitely — rules are going to have to be enforced.

PSAKI: Absolutely.

Watch above via MSNBC’s Inside With Jen Psaki.

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