Jonathan Lemire, White House reporter for the Associated Press and political analyst for MSNBC and NBC News, is my guest on this week’s episode of The Interview podcast.

Lemire, one of the most prominent members of the White House press corps, and a daily presence on Morning Joe, was a local reporter covering New York City politics when he was sent to cover the launch of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in 2015 (the weird event with the golden escalator).

A wild ride covering the Trump campaign eventually landed Lemire at the White House, where he reported on Trump and his administration for the next four years.

Now that Trump is out of the White House, Lemire is left with the Biden administration, which he describes as newsworthy but more traditional.

“It is different. We don’t have the 6 a.m. tweet that that rattles global capitals,” he said, or an investigation like that Mueller probe, a time when “nearly every night there was some screaming headline that everyone else had to race and match and one blockbuster after another.”

“Certainly this is a much more disciplined White House,” he said. “There are far fewer leaks from staffers. There’s far less infighting, at least so far, among administration officials, who, during the Trump administration, it didn’t take much for one official to completely knife another one of the back on the phone to you at any time because they’re just trying to boost their own standing with the president.”

Yet while Trump has left the White House, he remains “an extremely potent political force,” Lemire said. “Whether or not he runs in 2024, he’s still shaping a lot of the discourse. And the Biden administration, as much as they would like to ignore him, they can’t.”

We also spoke about dealing with menacing MAGA fans at Trump rallies, what the Allen Weisselberg charges mean for the former president’s family and future, drama in Vice President Kamala Harris’s office, and the “total mess” of the New York City mayoral race.

Download the full episode now, and subscribe to The Interview on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

MSNBC’s Chuck Todd issued an angry and forceful condemnation to people on television who continue to spread false information about the coronavirus.

Todd was anchoring Meet The Press Daily on Thursday when he provided viewers with the latest updates from the White House’s coronavirus team. He focused on CDC Director Rochelle Walensky’s announcement that there are over 1,000 counties in the U.S. with a vaccination coverage of less than 30 percent, even as the highly contagious Delta variant of the coronavirus is increasingly spreading.

From there, Todd implored viewers to “please get vaccinated” and “find a way to convince” people who aren’t vaccinated to go get it. He became steadily more emotional before crossing into outright anger toward those spreading Covid misinformation.

The only people dying are the unvaccinated, and for those of you spreading misinformation, shame on you. Shame on you! People are needlessly dying because of your misinformation! Think about it. I don’t know how some of you sleep at night who are doing this for a living on television.

Watch above, via MSNBC.

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