Jonathan Swan Heaps Praise on ‘Very Insightful’ Charlie Kirk, Reveals Close Relationship
The New York Times reporter Jonathan Swan revealed”one of the hardest chapters” to write in his new book with Maggie Haberman was about the murder of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, due to his strong personal bond with the conservative influencer.
Swan discussed the friendship during an interview on Meghan McCain’s podcast on July 15.
“I would just have interesting conversations with him,” Swan said. “I just found him a very insightful person who obviously had his hands in all kinds of things.”
He said he spoke with Kirk frequently, including the day before he was shot and killed at a TP USA event at Utah Valley University last September.
“I run that conversation through in my head like, all the time,” Swan said.
Swan went on, saying he and Kirk would pick each other’s brains all the time. He said one of Kirk’s finest qualities was he was a curious guy, and he said his marriage to Erika Kirk seemed to make him an even more well-rounded individual.
“I think he changed a lot in the last 18 months of his life,” Swan explained. “I think he was connecting with his faith in a deeper way, I think he was exploring other points of view in a different way, I think being married had a big effect on him. He was less of a sort of knee-jerk kind of culture warrior.”
Swan said he and Haberman wrote about the day President Donald Trump found out Kirk died in their book on the president’s return to the White House. He said a “distraught” Barron Trump was the one who broke the news to his father about Kirk’s slaying, which immediately rattled the president and everyone in his inner circle.
“It was like a zombie town in the West Wing that day,” Swan said.
He added the Republican Party is still reeling from Kirk’s death because he was the “best fundraiser of his generation.”
Watch above via the Citizen McCain podcast.
Jason Cohen contributed to this report.
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